Curse

Kyosuke · May 01, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

From what I've noticed in Cantha, it's not a welcoming place to the common W/Mo Runner. Because of the fact many areas are only accessible by quest and/or teleporting once oyu have accessed the area, there are plenty of key places that you cannot be ran to.

While on one hand this is a good thing, on another not so good for those people who have completed the Cantha missions atleast once, but want to run through with another Char.

Thoughts on this issue?

isamu kurosawa · May 01, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

The whole point of PvE is to play the game, factions just makes you play the game by doing quests to get around so all i can say is.....

GOOD

if you wan't to run get a sports game.

Splatter Mcnasty · May 01, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

The whole point of PvE is to play the game, factions just makes you play the game by doing quests to get around so all i can say is.....

GOOD

if you wan't to run get a sports game.

Not necessarily true. I dont mind playing through the game with one or 2 characters, but being required to play through the entire thing for EVERY character I make is just retarded.

In my opinion, they should make the map "unlockable", so that once you take your first character through the game, additional characters on your account should be able to run anywhere, in any order they want to.

isamu kurosawa · May 01, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

If you where to play any other game such as say metal gear solid, you can't run and skip it all because yuo have played it before.

Plannb23 · May 01, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

So you would rather have people in places that they really shouldnt be with characters that they arent suited to playing?

Personally while I ran all my characters after the first, I say good. People would rip people off with running and now that its gone its one less scam players have to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty

Not necessarily true. I dont mind playing through the game with one or 2 characters, but being required to play through the entire thing for EVERY character I make is just retarded.

In my opinion, they should make the map "unlockable", so that once you take your first character through the game, additional characters on your account should be able to run anywhere, in any order they want to.

tONYY · May 01, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

People actully have to be good to finnish the game now...

icemonkey · May 01, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

If you where to play any other game such as say metal gear solid, you can't run and skip it all because yuo have played it before.

You could use the invisible cloak thing once you had beaten it on subsequent times through, its a perk of beating hte game once and adds to replay value.

This is the developers choice however, I think more than people running through with second and third characters they didnt like people being way above where they should have been etc...

Less people will probably have all their players on their account with game beaten but there will be people actually trying to fight through missions and quests now.

For the community this is probably a good nerf

GranDeWun · May 01, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

You can run from Marketplace to K.Ctr! (I've seen people advertising it already!)

obastable · May 01, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Splatter Mcnasty

I dont mind playing through the game with one or 2 characters, but being required to play through the entire thing for EVERY character I make is just retarded.

In my opinion, they should make the map "unlockable", so that once you take your first character through the game, additional characters on your account should be able to run anywhere, in any order they want to.

Couldn't agree more. That, or perhaps after completing the game with one character any subsequent character isn't blocked from accessing portals. That way they still have to do something to get places (be it fighting to get there, running themselves, paying a runner, or whatever).

The story line isn't diverse. It's the exact same story, with all the same main quests, missions, and objectives, no matter how many times you play it. I have absolutely no intention of playing through Factions with more than one character, from start to finish. Simply put, there's nothing in the game that makes it worthwhile to do twice. You don't have to play through the entire game with each class to learn how to play that class, or even to unlock all of the skills for that class. The only incentives to take a character through every mission is for armor skins (which aren't so great imo), some green weapons that aren't better than everything else in the game, or an oversized buzzard for a pet.

Wooha? I think not.

I'm sure it's incentive enough for some people, but for me it just comes out as a mindless, boring grind.

Stolen Souls · May 01, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

I kind of have mixed feelings on the whole thing.

Like people said, it will help cut back on the low levels in high-level areas. But I just shudder at the thought of having to do some of these missions/quests on every character I make.

lennymon · May 01, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

I Love it! In fact the funnest mission I've ever done so far has been Visunah Square. I'm gonna do it some more.

gabrial heart · May 01, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Unlike tyria's square milage and almost double mission amount, cantha is pretty tight and mission lean. Also, each mission contains possible elite skill caps so even if you were to be able to get run, you'd ultimately have to go back to cap. Basically the game has been build in such a way that people actually have to play in order to earn the rewards and reap the benifit of playing a pretty well balanced game.

Antheus · May 01, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

There's less reason to run through Cantha, due to different design.

In Tyria, most running is done from Ascalon to Droks, to get the best armor. Best armor in Cantha is readily available from the start.

Leveling is also fast when starting in Cantha, so there is less need to run to the powerleveling spots.

The only reason to be ran through, would be to get quick access to various missions, but that really shouldn't be too much bother, since you'll need to capture the elites and other skills anyway.

I'm not really sure how much it will matter, I guess a small subset of missions will suffice to get anywhere, but running might not be that necessary.

And yes, running made it possible to level many more characters in Tyria, and give them access to what they needed. It was a good choice to allow people to skip content. You can only realistically do the same required quests so many times.

Ellena · May 02, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

unlike tyria, cantha quests and missiosn have good rewards. Why woudl you WANT to skip most of them on a character?

TheArrow · May 02, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

There are only so many quests one person can stomach. No matter how good the rewards.

Mr D J · May 02, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

OMG... I hate factions for god damn quests GAH... I cant get into HzH because of some quests I didnt do in the very beginning of the freakin game and I have no idea which ones I am surposed to take because there is so many... God dammit I wish I could just run myself to wherever I wanted to... Anet tried to get rid of runners and they gave me a head ache by that... I didnt move a mission further in the whole day trying to find out which quests I didnt do ffs...

isamu kurosawa · May 02, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by Joker The Owner

OMG... I hate factions for god damn quests GAH... I cant get into HzH because of some quests I didnt do in the very beginning of the freakin game and I have no idea which ones I am surposed to take because there is so many... God dammit I wish I could just run myself to wherever I wanted to... Anet tried to get rid of runners and they gave me a head ache by that... I didnt move a mission further in the whole day trying to find out which quests I didnt do ffs...

all you need to do is follow primary quests....

BlueXIV · May 02, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Let's just say that when you finish the final boss, you can get certain reward items. Anet probably made factions unrunnable because they didn't want to farm this.

khronic · May 02, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

well.. sucks that you can't go exploring anymore.. i liked running around and finding new places without having to do redundant quests.. thanks for screwing up a-net.. btw, a guildie stopped playing because of the mm nerf

sir lockt · May 02, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

I am "running" now through the storyline with my tyra character. In a short of time I got pretty far. Many of the quests I skip for now, I only take the main quests lead me now to the kurzick area.

Problem with running in cantha will be the mission in viz square. I see in the local area a lot of low (<20) lvl ppl that go in with henchies only, hence they have only 1healer that screws every party up comming from tyra...

Personnally I dont have anything against runners. If you wanna play the game like that... go ahead! If you dont like the lvl 3's in Ember... dont play with them... I think in Cantha the reason is that everything is pretty close together so you would run through the come in no time